Shop for the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd 4x10 guitar combo and. Eyelet boards are a bit hard to come by, so i designed my own. The old 5f6a bassman circuit has a total of four stages of power supply. Fender tweed 59 bassman output transformer, 2 ohm, 45249. Permalink does anyone know when they started making them in mexico. I have done quite a bit of ab testing between the two amps and the z28 comes out on top every time. The fender sounded much colder and sterile than the vicky. If you have a copy of an old fender guitar amplifier owners manual not shown in this archive, wed love to have a copy to post here. If you can read the schematic and understand the layout you shouldnt have a problem as. Nov 18, 2009 i had a look last night at the schematic for my 59 bassman ltd and compared it to the schematic for the vintage 5f6a. Fender 59 bassman operating instructions manual pdf. Fender bassman 5f6a amplifier project by edmund henke. Recently i was talking about some mods i made to my 1991 59 bassman ri to bring it back to original, true 5f6a specifications. A pdf would be great, or even a scanned jpeg, gif or tiff that we can convert.
Fender 59 bassman reissue schematic the tube store. Prowess amplifiers offers resources for the guitar tube amplifier builder. The real deal cosmetically, it looks just like the real deal with the exception that the tweed doesnt come laquered. I am reasonably certain that i am running lower plate volts than stock as i switched over to the jj rectifier.
Biasing a fender 59 bassman ltd, 67ma reading max with pot. Aug 12, 2014 prowess amplifiers offers resources for the guitar tube amplifier builder. I want to swap those out again and put the 6l6s in again. Even when unplugged the capacitors can still contain a substantial charge and must be discharged before attempting any work. This is the schematic of the bassman 5f6a guitar amplifier from aspen pitmans book. The classic american amplifiers of the 50s and 60s inspired us to create the, errrrr, american classic series. Lately ive been thinking about getting a bassman 59 ri. My old 59 ri was pretty darn bright too it sounded best nice and loud and lightly driven by a darker overdrive i used to use a zvex box of rock and a blackstone. The easy thing would just be a used 59 bassman reissue.
Page 4 as the cornerstone of fenders amplifier line, the the speakers used in the original units had alnico original bassman became the inspiration for magnets and an exact copy of those original numerous manufacturers in the united states and speakers are used in the 59 bassman reissue. Fenders bassbreaker series puts classic tones at your fingertips, preserving both past and future sounds with a few twists to offer up a wider palette. Mod your bassman reissue for vintage tone to start i. Service manuals, schematics, eproms for electrical technicians. Ive been looking into the 59 bassman ri for quite a while now and i really want it. For what its worth, i built my project 5f6a with the schematic here and with the reissue schematic, and i like the old one better with 2.
Fender bassman ltd tweed factory workmanship problems. Heres the schematic and layout to locate the components. Buy fender 59 bassman ltd 50watt 4x10inch tube bass combo amp. In the 1950s, the bassman was perfect for amplifying that new invention, the fender precision bass. The original 59 had 8uf filtering on the preamp the ri has 2 20 uf in parallel you can cut one out. Bassman 100 sch service manual download, schematics. How i changed my 59 bassman ri to original 5f6a specs. Nov 14, 2012 lately ive been thinking about getting a bassman 59 ri. Newsroom fender play foundation affiliate program modern slavery act. Ri bassman to 52 volts as measured on pin 5 of either power tube with the. I cant help but thinking im missing out on a bit extra something seeing as the pro jr is so cheap. But thats just me 59 reissue tweeds are great amps,in fact they are my amp of choice for rented festival backline. The look you love is here, too, courtesy of a genuine lacqueredtweed covering and a striped oxblood grille cloth.
Cranked to about 6 out of 12 and the break up is nice. Does anyone know the value of the capselectrolytics. The fender 5f6a schematic shows 48v as the bias voltage for 5881 tubes. Fender 59 bassman ltd 45watt guitar amplifier features at a glance. The ceriatone 5f6a amplifier is based on the tweedcovered amplifier of the same designation. And changed the slope resistor from 100k to 56k and replaced. Fender forums view topic 59 bassman reissue schematic. The bassman ltd has a pine finger jointed cabinet and is far closer in specification to an original 59 bassman, although it still has a printed. Im very much into the tweed tone and am wondering if anyone has both the pro jr and the bassman to compare with.
Amplifiers especially tube amps contain high voltages that can kill. Do you have the first ri 59 bassman or the newer laquered tweed ltd they do have some differences. Many collectors rank the original 59 bassman as one of the greatest amps ever made. There are hundreds of pages of tube amp information on my library page. The bassman ri circa 1990s was made with a printed circuit board and had a solid state rectifier which was changeable for a tubevalve rectifier. Prowess amplifiers fender schematics bassman ab165. If ordering for an older discontinued amp, please include photos or as much descriptive information on the product as you can. This is my fender bassman 5f6a guitar amplifier project. We have a huge schematics inventory, projects section and forum. E v e r y eff o r t has been made to replicate the original sound and circuit design of fenders 59 bassman. Im going for the srv, mayer, clean butteryglassy clean tone. Get that classic fender bassman tone from this vintage reissue. The mystery of the fender bassman 5f6a schematic cracking the.
The other difference between the older bassman ri and the current bassman ltd is the pot for adjusting bias. Ive seen the schematic for the original 59 reissue, but apparently the ltd is a little different. I have always loved the sound of the 59 bassman reissue is fine. Say a 2x10 with the same sort of 59 bassman circuit.
The circuit, cab, speakers, and face are closer to the original 5f6a. I had a look last night at the schematic for my 59 bassman ltd and compared it to the schematic for the vintage 5f6a. My silverface bassman heads end up getting wired to a tweed circuit. They get some great marshall tone if you know how to work em. Now i only play through this tweed circuit to get a bit grittier sound.
And my recollection has it about year 2000 when i bought it, probably earlier than that. How i changed my 59 bassman ri to original 5f6a specs the. Mods for fender reissue tweed bassman carls custom amps. This is, in our opinion, perhaps the most important continue reading american classics 5f6a bassman. A member asked if i had a thread describing the changes i made, and so i decided to dig out my schematic and share it with you. This was succeeded in 2004 by the vintage reissue series 59 bassman ltd, which. Fender bassbreaker 45 2x12 45watt tube combo amp sweetwater. I need a fitted cover for my fender 59 bassman reissue. Unfortunatley my local dealers dont have one i can try. This site helps you to save the earth from electronic waste. I have a regular 59 bassman ri and imo they have such a distinctive tone that there wont be much, if any overlap with the vox. Fender 59 bassman reissue fender stratocaster guitar forum. My 90s 59 bassman ri kinda walked its way by itself into my music room. I have listed my 1961 fender concert for sale, and if it sells, will replace it with some sort of tweed sounding amp.
Z z28 2 x 10 which is essentially a halfsized bassman and have to say it smokes the current 59 bassman pcb reissue imo. In the 90s, fender released an affordable 59 bassman reissue amplifier to great acclaim. Fender 59 bassman operating instructions manual pdf download. Red arrows show changes from the original 5f6a bassman schematic. The old 59 bassman reissue in the early 90s have a solid state rectifier, plywood cabinet, eminence blue frame alnico speaker and tweed without tint and lacquer. The bassbreaker 45 guitar combo amp gets its voice from a 59 bassman style preamp and 45 watts from an el34 power section. Conference on digital audio effects dafx06, montreal, canada, september 1820, 2006 discretization of the 59 fender bassman tone stack david t. So far, ive only covered from the input to the end of the tone stack. Genuine lacquered tweed with striped oxblood grille cloth covering. After downloading, the file may take a moment to open in the browser. The 59 bassman ltd is the very best reissue amp thats not custom shop p2p that. Pine cabinet, jensen p10r speakers, groove tube throughout etc. I borrowed a ibanez 30th anniversary ts9 tube screamer from my local music store, and got home testing it with my fender bassman 59 ltd reissue, and my gretsch 6120, to be honest i think it sounds horrible. This will be my first, official tube ampmajor amp purchase and i dont want to regret it.
Fender bassman 5f6a amplifier project by edmund henke this is my fender bassman 5f6a guitar amplifier project. But i would also be interested in something in a smaller package. Fender diagrams, schematics and service manuals download for free. Fender bassman 59 reissue 1990s tweed price guide reverb. Fender guitar and bass amplifier owners manuals and. The fender has been reissuing the 5f8a 4x 10 tweed bassman for quite some time now and its one of fender better amps but it does not sound that much like a original bassman. So when its bassman youre after, theres no need to bust your budget on an impossibletofind vintage amp.
I had the opportunity to compare the fender bassman 59 ri against the victoria 45410 and was surprised by how much better the victoria sounded. Click the link above for tube amp info, schematics, board building information, projects, mods, transformer diagrams, photos, sound clips. Discussion in the workbench started by chrisyoung, dec 15. Nov 01, 2012 i borrowed a ibanez 30th anniversary ts9 tube screamer from my local music store, and got home testing it with my fender bassman 59 ltd reissue, and my gretsch 6120, to be honest i think it sounds horrible. In my country these amps are truly revered, but our fender importer have priced them way out. Also like the originals, this is a paper layer wound output transformer for that ultimate tone. The history of the fender bassman amplifier fender. This amp features the same 4 by 10inch speaker layout of the late 50s years of production. The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to fender musical instruments corp. My problem is i swapped them out with a matched set of tubes and blew one of the tubes. Some people say the older eminence speakers sound better than the newer jensens. I have a 59 bassman reissue not the ltd not the handwired version. Bassman 5b6 5d6 5d6a 5e6 5e6a 5f6 5f6a 6g6 6g6a 6g6b aa165 aa270 aa371 aa864 ab165 ac568 bassman bassman 10 bassman 20 bassman 50 bassman 60 bassman 70 bassman 100 bassman 125 bassman 5 super bassman bronco aa764 ab764 champion 5b1 600 twotone 800 champ 5c1 5d1 5e1 5f1 aa764 cbs champ champ 12 champ 25 super champ champ ii champ. Schematics diagrams fender musical instruments corp.
Or rather, the old school marshalls had a bassman quality to them. The real deal is really loud, and loves to have the channels jumped. What would you all consider to be the most bangforbuck mods for the bassman ltd. Hi guys im new to the fender forum, and would like to kick off with this question. Fender bassman 5f6a amplifier project by edmund henke on. E v e r y eff o r t has been made to replicate the original sound. Mar 30, 2014 the real deal is really loud, and loves to have the channels jumped. I bought the thing on ebay that was modified with yellow jackets in 6l6 slots.
Bassman 20 19821983 blackface combo one 15 speaker. Just seems a bit low for being max bias on this thing. Ive heard of several people either having this done or doing it themselves with good results though. The boards are printed circuit boards, and using a heat gun, i removed all the copper clad. Warning if you are not a qualified technician please do not attempt any repair you are not confident with. Fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd 4x10 guitar combo. I dont expect anyone to mod their original 5f6a bassman but if you have a bassman reissue or home. Not too surprising then that fender reissued this model starting in 1990. This 50w rig allowed the bass to hold its own onstage with drums, electric guitars, and miked piano, the common instrumentation of the day. So far, ive only covered from the input to the end of the tone stack, but what ive seen so far is.
Fender forums view topic 59 bassman ri and 12ay7 valve. Recently a major amp builder in texas was inquiring about particular sections of the circuit because he looks at this. This output transformer has zinc plated hardware just like the originals. Fender 59 bassman ltd 4x10 45watt tube combo amp sweetwater.
Fender vintage reissue 59 bassman vs peavey classic 50 my. The fender had a kind of shrill and ice picky highend when compared with the vicky. On the 59 bassman ltd recent reissue thats the max current i can get with 120v at the wall dialed in with variac with the bias pot all the way to the right. This article contains a list of all fender guitar amplifier owners manuals currently available. The previous version of the bassman 5f6 had a 25uf25v bypass cap on the second tube 12ax7 across the 820 ohm cathode resistor. The straightforward fender 59 bassman outperforms most of the fancy amps on the market today. No schematic for the 5d6 circuit has ever been found, but ken fox and frank roy have. View and download fender 59 bassman operating instructions manual online. Fender vintage reissue 59 bassman vs peavey classic 50. Smith center for computer research in music and acoustics ccrma. Many of the mods on this page apply to the bassman reissue.
The fender bassman is a bass amplifier introduced by fender during 1952. Fender guitar amplifier owners manuals current fender. The tweed bassman is a whole different beast than the later head bassman amps, which usually ran with a 2x12 cab. How fenders invention of the precision bass led to one of its greatest amps. Fender 5f6a 59 bassman amplifier info and modifications. Mod your bassman reissue for vintage tone singlecoil. Discussion in other amps started by iluvledzepp, nov 27. It had an unfinished tweed, which ive shellaced, and came with a somewhat goofy, high voltage circuit and a plugin solid state rectifier, 3x12ax7s and 4 eminence jensen repor 10s.
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